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    The Pope closes Hell

    Post by Guest on Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:24 am

    So does this mean I can blow off Easter services?!?!?!?


    Good thing I didn't put the check in the envelope yet.


    No longer Mortal sins are still expensive

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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by al in cal on Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:30 am

    Deplorable Mark wrote:So does this mean I can blow off Easter services?!?!?!?


    Good thing I didn't put the check in the envelope yet.


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    This guy may indeed be the proverbial ANTI-CHRIST:( Instead of the established altar wine cock-tail, he must be imbibing on tequila in significant quantity.
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    Post by alohafri on Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:44 am

    The definition of fake news. The reporter is a known atheist who has misrepresented the Holy Father's words numerous times.


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-dont-trust-report-that-pope-francis-denied-reality-of-hell-53450

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    Post by al in cal on Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:11 pm

    alohafri wrote:The definition of fake news. The reporter is a known atheist who has misrepresented the Holy Father's words numerous times.


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-dont-trust-report-that-pope-francis-denied-reality-of-hell-53450
    ITs just weird to me that this Pope has an atheist as a friend. This Pope has also made some pretty radical comments during his tenure also.
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by Soxillinirob on Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:02 pm

    al in cal wrote:
    alohafri wrote:The definition of fake news. The reporter is a known atheist who has misrepresented the Holy Father's words numerous times.


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-dont-trust-report-that-pope-francis-denied-reality-of-hell-53450
    ITs just weird to me that this Pope has an atheist as a friend. This Pope has also made some pretty radical comments during his tenure also.

    It's a pretty good bet that Jesus would have welcomed atheists as his friends, especially if they were loving people.  Atheists are God's creatures, created in His image, as the saying goes.  If it's good enough for Jesus, it's probably good enough for Pope Frankie.  
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by Soxillinirob on Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:05 pm

    Deplorable Mark wrote:So does this mean I can blow off Easter services?!?!?!?


    Good thing I didn't put the check in the envelope yet.


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    How does one specifically close hell?  Did someone ever open hell?  Is Hell mentioned in the Bible?  I've always been under the impression that it's not, along with being told by a few religious friends that it's not.  Always just assumed that the Christian view is that Hell is the place where Jesus is not present, and not necessarily that it's a terrible place.  It's just the non-Jesus place.  The Biblical scholar at my work explains it that way.  
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by alohafri on Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:00 am

    al in cal wrote:
    alohafri wrote:The definition of fake news. The reporter is a known atheist who has misrepresented the Holy Father's words numerous times.


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-dont-trust-report-that-pope-francis-denied-reality-of-hell-53450
    ITs just weird to me that this Pope has an atheist as a friend. This Pope has also made some pretty radical comments during his tenure also.

    Reporter = Friend? Oh, sort of like Sean Hannity and Donald Trump!


    Yes, that whole "love one another as Christ loves us" is wayyyyyy radical.

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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by al in cal on Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:28 pm

    Soxillinirob wrote:
    al in cal wrote:
    alohafri wrote:The definition of fake news. The reporter is a known atheist who has misrepresented the Holy Father's words numerous times.


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-dont-trust-report-that-pope-francis-denied-reality-of-hell-53450
    ITs just weird to me that this Pope has an atheist as a friend. This Pope has also made some pretty radical comments during his tenure also.

    It's a pretty good bet that Jesus would have welcomed atheists as his friends, especially if they were loving people.  Atheists are God's creatures, created in His image, as the saying goes.  If it's good enough for Jesus, it's probably good enough for Pope Frankie.  



    His statements are pretty radical for me and his pretty off handed remark about hell not existing to me is pretty much against many hundreds and hundreds of years of Church teachings. ALso, he throws these comments out with little or no explanation or support for what he says. I wonder if the CHurch can impeach the Pope?

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    Soxillinirob wrote:
    al in cal wrote:
    alohafri wrote:The definition of fake news. The reporter is a known atheist who has misrepresented the Holy Father's words numerous times.


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-dont-trust-report-that-pope-francis-denied-reality-of-hell-53450
    ITs just weird to me that this Pope has an atheist as a friend. This Pope has also made some pretty radical comments during his tenure also.

    It's a pretty good bet that Jesus would have welcomed atheists as his friends, especially if they were loving people.  Atheists are God's creatures, created in His image, as the saying goes.  If it's good enough for Jesus, it's probably good enough for Pope Frankie.  


    If anybody ever needed proof that MR ROBZ just invents stuff with zero regard as to whether or not its accurate, here is yet another example.


    The Bible I was thought during 12 years of Catholic education clearly explained to me that all of the followers of Jesus considered him the Messiah.  So by definition, none of them where atheists.  This notion that Jesus accepted and tolerated everybody is the biggest 1/2 truth out there.  The Bible I was thought during 12 years of Catholic education clearly explained to me that Jesus didn't accepted anybody that didn't repent and accept him first.  He never tolerated sin.


    Not that I expect MR ROBZ to understand any of this.  The man creates his own reality than lies his ass off to defend.  $2 gas; Obama the deficit reducer; Jesus revoked Leviticus 18:22; 1.8 and multicolinearity...  some of the more famous lies.  And lets not forget his outright lie about ice ages that the KARK rebuked with a 2 minute Google search.


    PS, How wide spread could atheism be 2000 years ago?  the way I was taught history, 2000 years ago, just about everybody believed in some kind of God.  Pagan does not equal atheist.  But then, MR ROBZ consistantly forgets, if not out right misunderstand that 2000 years ago the world was extremely different.  Yet he constantly is trying to judge yesteryear by today's standards.  No wonder he suffers this delusion that Jesus was some kind of free love hippie wear love is defined as do whatever the hell you want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody.


    PSS, Anybody here think Jesus would have just accepted some 30 year old that lived in his parent basement and worked part time at McDonalds where he earned just enough to by pot and video games and porn to jerk off to?  My guess is the Messiah would tell that person to change.  I also guess MR ROBZ would not tolerate this if it were his child
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by Soxillinirob on Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:27 pm

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.
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    Post by Soxillinirob on Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:31 pm

    al in cal wrote:

    His statements are pretty radical for me and his pretty off handed remark about hell not existing to me is pretty much against many hundreds and hundreds of years of Church teachings. ALso, he throws these comments out with little or no explanation or support for what he says. I wonder if the CHurch can impeach the Pope?

    Seems to me that the Pope has just been setting the tone and making his own rules during most of my lifetime.  Not sure why he gets to decide things, but I've learned to roll with it.  This guy seems like a pretty good one. 

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    Post by al in cal on Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:23 pm

    Soxillinirob wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.

       I agree with that. But he would have sent the atheist straight to hell when he died without any qualms.Atheism is a conscious choice by man and is itself a mortal sin. That is why this pope really needs to clear the air on this issue instead of leaving it up to his surrogates to explain. And these guys are making even more of a mess out of it.
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    Post by alohafri on Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:41 pm

    al in cal wrote:
    Soxillinirob wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.

       I agree with that. But he would have sent the atheist straight to hell when he died without any qualms.Atheism is a conscious choice by man and is itself a mortal sin. That is why this pope really needs to clear the air on this issue instead of leaving it up to his surrogates to explain. And these guys are making even more of a mess out of it.

    Christ sends no one to Hell. People basically choose Hell by loving sin more than loving God.
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by alohafri on Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:56 pm

    al in cal wrote:
    Soxillinirob wrote:
    al in cal wrote:
    alohafri wrote:The definition of fake news. The reporter is a known atheist who has misrepresented the Holy Father's words numerous times.


    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-dont-trust-report-that-pope-francis-denied-reality-of-hell-53450
    ITs just weird to me that this Pope has an atheist as a friend. This Pope has also made some pretty radical comments during his tenure also.

    It's a pretty good bet that Jesus would have welcomed atheists as his friends, especially if they were loving people.  Atheists are God's creatures, created in His image, as the saying goes.  If it's good enough for Jesus, it's probably good enough for Pope Frankie.  



    His statements are pretty radical for me and his pretty off handed remark about hell not existing to me is pretty much against many hundreds and hundreds of years of Church teachings. ALso, he throws these comments out with little or no explanation or support for what he says. I wonder if the CHurch can impeach the Pope?

    Pope Francis has been speaking about Hell and Satan throughout his Pontificate.


    http://www.vcatholic.com/articles/3-times-pope-francis-warned-about-hell/



    http://yournewswire.com/pope-francis-warns-about-the-reptilian-devil/



    http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pope-francis-the-devil-is-no-myth-and-we-must-fight-him



    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-did-pope-really-say-hell-does-not-exist-20180330-htmlstory.html


    You dopes question the Washington Post but you take the word of a 98 year old atheist who never takes notes as the gospel truth? (pun intended)
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

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    al in cal wrote:
    Soxillinirob wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.

       I agree with that. But he would have sent the atheist straight to hell when he died without any qualms.Atheism is a conscious choice by man and is itself a mortal sin. That is why this pope really needs to clear the air on this issue instead of leaving it up to his surrogates to explain. And these guys are making even more of a mess out of it.

    The Pope needs to clear the air but your real religious leader, Donald Trump has to justify nothing?
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by Soxillinirob on Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:10 pm

    alohafri wrote:

    Christ sends no one to Hell. People basically choose Hell by loving sin more than loving God.

    That is, assuming there is a "hell."  Sometimes it feels like we're currently in hell.

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    Post by al in cal on Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:29 pm

    alohafri wrote:
    al in cal wrote:
    Soxillinirob wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.

       I agree with that. But he would have sent the atheist straight to hell when he died without any qualms.Atheism is a conscious choice by man and is itself a mortal sin. That is why this pope really needs to clear the air on this issue instead of leaving it up to his surrogates to explain. And these guys are making even more of a mess out of it.

    Christ sends no one to Hell. People basically choose Hell by loving sin more than loving God.

    YOu believe whatever you want to believe but God makes up the rules by which those he created should live by. If people don't live by these rules, that is their choice and if they live bad lives, then he sends them to hell.

    Where I think that this pope is wrong is if people think that there is no consequence of hell, then why live a moral life? It doesn't make sense. Just going off as a wisp of air when you die is basically what atheists believe.

    I think that this pope, is in over his head as a spiritual leader. He should probably go back to being a bouncer in a south america bar. My 2nd grade nun, must be spinning in her grave upon learning what he said.

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    Post by al in cal on Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:36 pm

    alohafri wrote:
    al in cal wrote:
    Soxillinirob wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.

       I agree with that. But he would have sent the atheist straight to hell when he died without any qualms.Atheism is a conscious choice by man and is itself a mortal sin. That is why this pope really needs to clear the air on this issue instead of leaving it up to his surrogates to explain. And these guys are making even more of a mess out of it.

    The Pope needs to clear the air but your real religious leader, Donald Trump has to justify nothing?

     Trump is not my religious leader and has nothing to do with the notion of hell. But, I do think that the pope should explain his statement since it has big time impact on the faith of the members of the Catholic faith.

    As for Trump, it is clear that this pope, doesn't support him which is just another reason why I think that the pope is pretty much in over his head as the leader of so many.

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    Post by al in cal on Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:44 pm

    Soxillinirob wrote:
    alohafri wrote:

    Christ sends no one to Hell. People basically choose Hell by loving sin more than loving God.

    That is, assuming there is a "hell."  Sometimes it feels like we're currently in hell.

    Nah. We've left the purgatory of the last 16 years under BushII and Obama and the world is a much better place to live. Assuming that people wish to work to improve their and their family's lives that is. And with a president who is committed to confronting the bad leaders of the world directly, things are also moving in a positive direction to reduce the possibility of a nuclear war.

      I guess if you along with the malcontents of the world desire to believe the world sucks, then that is just tough. I am as content as a man can be. I don't have to like the man that is our president but I can like what the man does in leading my country and I think that he is doing a very good job as my president.

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    al in cal wrote:
    Soxillinirob wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.

       I agree with that. But he would have sent the atheist straight to hell when he died without any qualms.Atheism is a conscious choice by man and is itself a mortal sin. That is why this pope really needs to clear the air on this issue instead of leaving it up to his surrogates to explain. And these guys are making even more of a mess out of it.


    Al, why would you agree with such double talking gibberish.  First, the 10 commandment make it very clear that it is a sin if you do not believe in the one and only God.  It also defies common sense that the Son of God would have been "cool" with an Atheist.  BTW, I suspect 2000 years ago, an atheist would be as rare as a polar bear in Hawaii.


    The Bible I was taught during 12 years of Catholic school did not describe some free love hippie which Mr RobZ is clearly inventing with zero regard for what is actually in the Bible.  The Jesus we were taught did not accept anybody who did not accept him as Lord first.  I cannot think of any example where Jesus accepted sinner as a friend and tried to change him by setting a proper example.  This nonsense is straight out of RobZ imagination.  However, I do recall countless examples where Jesus forgave the sinner because the sinner repented, accepted him as Lord, and rejected his sinful lifestyle.  and this didn't happen by Jesus setting the example.  It happened miraclulously and instantanously.


    PS, RobZ denies this because he doesn't believe in miracles and he doesn't believe in the miracles of Jesus because he denies Jesus divinity.  which is why he is invented his own Bible.  Hopefully Kevin will correct all his buddies inaccuracies once he is done taking cheap shots at Donald Trump

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    The Side Of Jesus That Is Often Ignored (especially by lying arrogant schmucks)



    Jesus Was Intolerant Of Sin And Those Who Promoted It. Much of His time on earth was spent exposing and condemning the sins of the Jewish leadership. He warned His disciples, "Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Matthew 16.6]Matthew 16:6[/url]). Initially the disciples didn’t understand His words. But after Jesus explained, "they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Matthew 16.12]Matthew 16:12[/url]). His language in Matthew 23 is among the strongest in all the Bible. He referred to the Scribes and Pharisees as "hypocrites," "serpents," "brood of vipers." He described them as "full of extortion and self-indulgence," "full of hypocrisy and lawlessness." He said that they, "devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers." He was intolerant of those who rejected Him after seeing His miracles, "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Matthew 11.21-22]Matthew 11:21-22[/url]). Jesus was intolerant of those who set aside God’s law to follow human tradition ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Matt. 15.3-9]Matt. 15:3-9[/url]). He did not tolerate "false christs" and "false prophets" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Matthew 24.24]Matthew 24:24[/url]). He told the Sadducees that they were "mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Matthew 22.29]Matthew 22:29[/url]).
         Jesus’ disciples followed His example of intolerance. The early church did not tolerate the sin of Ananias and Sapphira, they were struck dead ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Acts 5.1-11]Acts 5:1-11[/url]). When the judaizing teachers came to Antioch, "Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and dispute with them" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Acts 15.2]Acts 15:2[/url]). When these same false teachers tried to compel circumcision Paul "did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Galatians 2.5]Galatians 2:5[/url]). Paul wrote, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Ephesians 5.11]Ephesians 5:11[/url]). The New Testament occasionally exposed false teachers by name and the error they tried to teach ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/II Timothy 2.16-18]II Timothy 2:16-18[/url]).

         The language of the early preachers was similar to that of Jesus in Matthew 23. Stephen called the Jews he was addressing "stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears" and "betrayers and murderers" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Acts 7.51-52]Acts 7:51-52[/url]). The apostle Paul said of Elymas, "O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord?" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Acts 13.10]Acts 13:10[/url]). He referred to the false teachers who would come into the church at Ephesus as "savage wolves" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Acts 20.29]Acts 20:29[/url]). James called some of his readers "adulterers and adulteresses," "sinners" and "double-minded" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/James 4.1-10]James 4:1-10[/url]). Truth should never be given equal weight with error, and the faithful Christian will never tolerate that which opposed to truth.


    AND JUST FOR KEVIN:

    G.K. Chesteron, “Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.”
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

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    al in cal wrote:
    alohafri wrote:
    al in cal wrote:
    Soxillinirob wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.

       I agree with that. But he would have sent the atheist straight to hell when he died without any qualms.Atheism is a conscious choice by man and is itself a mortal sin. That is why this pope really needs to clear the air on this issue instead of leaving it up to his surrogates to explain. And these guys are making even more of a mess out of it.

    Christ sends no one to Hell. People basically choose Hell by loving sin more than loving God.

    YOu believe whatever you want to believe but God makes up the rules by which those he created should live by. If people don't live by these rules, that is their choice and if they live bad lives, then he sends them to hell.

    Where I think that this pope is wrong is if people think that there is no consequence of hell, then why live a moral life? It doesn't make sense. Just going off as a wisp of air when you die is basically what atheists believe.

    I think that this pope, is in over his head as a spiritual leader. He should probably go back to being a bouncer in a south america bar. My 2nd grade nun, must be spinning in her grave upon learning what he said.

    Where in the Bible is someone sent to Hell by God?


    And, again, why are you believing what an atheist reporter? 
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    al in cal wrote:
    alohafri wrote:
    al in cal wrote:
    Soxillinirob wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have accepted, befriended, and loved anyone that was living their lives in a positive or moral way.  Atheism is not immorality, nor is it sin.  


    I agree that Jesus would not have accepted sin as acceptable.  But he would have loved the sinner and tried being a positive influence in that sinner's life.

       I agree with that. But he would have sent the atheist straight to hell when he died without any qualms.Atheism is a conscious choice by man and is itself a mortal sin. That is why this pope really needs to clear the air on this issue instead of leaving it up to his surrogates to explain. And these guys are making even more of a mess out of it.

    The Pope needs to clear the air but your real religious leader, Donald Trump has to justify nothing?

     Trump is not my religious leader and has nothing to do with the notion of hell. But, I do think that the pope should explain his statement since it has big time impact on the faith of the members of the Catholic faith.

    As for Trump, it is clear that this pope, doesn't support him which is just another reason why I think that the pope is pretty much in over his head as the leader of so many.

    You make this judgment because he doesn't support the views of the secular leader of a nation?
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by alohafri on Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:21 pm

    Deplorable Mark wrote:The Side Of Jesus That Is Often Ignored (especially by lying arrogant schmucks)



    But after Jesus explained, "they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees" ([url=http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Matthew 16.12]Matthew 16:12[/url]). His language in Matthew 23 is among the strongest in all the Bible. He referred to the Scribes and Pharisees as "hypocrites," "serpents," "brood of vipers." He described them as "full of extortion and self-indulgence," "full of hypocrisy and lawlessness." 

    The Pharisees...those evangelicals who are full of hypocrisy.
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    Re: The Pope closes Hell

    Post by alohafri on Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:22 pm

    Deplorable Mark wrote:

    AND JUST FOR KEVIN:

    G.K. Chesteron, “Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.”

    And just for Kark...


    http://www.reasonablecatholic.com/on-pope-francis-chesterton/

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