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    Testing RobZ theory

    Post by Guest on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:07 am

    RobZ claims that Republican Presidents spend the money that Democrat Presidents make.


    well here is the data

    %change in Receipts%change in OutlaysOutlays as a % of Receipts
    1981          1.13
    1982      1.03                1.10           1.21
    1983      0.97                1.08           1.35
    1984      1.11                1.05           1.28
    1985      1.10                1.11           1.29
    1986      1.05                1.05           1.29
    1987      1.11                1.01           1.18
    1988      1.06                1.06           1.17
    1989      1.09                1.07           1.15
    1990      1.04                1.10           1.21
    1991      1.02                1.06           1.26
    1992      1.03                1.04           1.27
    1993      1.06                1.02           1.22
    1994      1.09                1.04           1.16
    1995      1.07                1.04           1.12
    1996      1.07                1.03           1.07
    1997      1.09                1.03           1.01
    1998      1.09                1.03           0.96
    1999      1.06                1.03           0.93
    2000      1.11                1.05           0.88
    2001      0.98                1.04           0.94
    2002      0.93                1.08           1.09
    2003      0.96                1.07           1.21
    2004      1.05                1.06           1.22
    2005      1.15                1.08           1.15
    2006      1.12                1.07           1.10
    2007      1.07                1.03           1.06
    2008      0.98                1.09           1.18
    2009      0.83                1.18           1.67
    2010      1.03                0.98           1.60
    2011      1.07                1.04           1.56
    2012      1.06                0.98           1.44
    2013      1.13                0.98           1.24
    2014      1.09                1.01           1.16
    2015      1.08                1.05           1.13
    2016 estimate      1.03                1.07           1.18



    First, this notion that Obama is good for deficit reduction is an outright lie based upon the most ridiculous of assumptions


    Second, while it is tough to argue with the Clinton years, it is outright assinine to assume Clinton is par for the course of Democrat Presidents


    Third, 9/11 and the housing bubble really screwed Bush 2.  so one has to wonder how much of Clinton was pure dumb luck.  the cold war ended before he took office.  Islamofascism didn't strike our shores until after.  So Clinton had no real immediate international threat to deal with.  However, his ignoring of Bin Laden, and his nuclear and other technology gifts to the Chinese and North Koreans assured future Presidents would not have that luxury


    Fourth, the Clinton surplus was helped by the Tech bubble which didn't burst until Bush 2.  Remember Bush 2 also inherited a recession.  A recession that looked like the roaring 20's compared to what Carter handed Reagan.


    Fifth, Carter and Obama both peddled that lie that America's glory days were done.  Reagan and Trump proved them both liars
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    Re: Testing RobZ theory

    Post by Soxillinirob on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:23 am

    Thank you.  I think your chart makes a nice case that not only did the deficit drop discernibly during his overall span in office, but his spending outlays barely increased at all during his 8 yrs, which is relatively unheard of.  Any growth we had was without spending increases.  Any lagging we suffered, did so while spending was being held steady.  We spent through the roof under Reagan and GWB in order to get the growth we had.  Same is happening now.  We're spending more and cutting revenue inflows.  

    You can call Clinton's time dumb luck.  I agree in theory that you're right.  Sometimes a president takes specific steps to have an effect.  Other times they are in the right or wrong place at the right or wrong time.  Fact remains...deficits fall during Dem presidents.  Deficit go up during GOP presidents.  Easily provable.  Easily viewable.  Clearly factual.  Unless you a dumb mutha.  Then it ain't so easy.
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    Re: Testing RobZ theory

    Post by Soxillinirob on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:25 am

    Fact still remains that GWB and his administration took a clear surplus and decided it needed to NOT be a surplus.  Starve the Beast strategy!!!  It works and is working.  Clearly.

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