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    Avi's arbitration

    Post by rmapasad on Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:47 pm

    Haven't heard any news on Avi Garcia agreeing to an arb number although the deadline I believe is today.   Hopefully that doesn't mean the Sox are thinking of something boneheaded like an extension deal. 

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    Re: Avi's arbitration

    Post by Guest on Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:57 pm

    5 Year extension makes tons of sense.  especially if they get a huge hometown discount


    Avisail is batting 320 this year.  Yet another reason to sign Cain on the cheap
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    Re: Avi's arbitration

    Post by rmapasad on Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:22 pm

    Deplorable Mark wrote:5 Year extension makes tons of sense.  especially if they get a huge hometown discount


    Avisail is batting 320 this year.  Yet another reason to sign Cain on the cheap

    Giving guys nice contracts after their career or near-career best years has usually bitten the Sox squarely in the ass. Good reasons to be cautious about Garcia -
    1. He's sucked for three years and been good only one
    2. His power increase was modest (only 3 more HR's p/500 PA) in an historic HR year for MLB.
    3. His .320 BA was heavily driven off a .367 BA on groundballs.  That won't happen again.
    4. His walk rate, which was already weak, got weaker
    5. He is still below average in tracking down flyballs.

    Yes, he did cut down on the K's, he did hit the ball harder, and his defense improved.  He also appears to be a hard worker and good in the clubhouse.  He's probably made his way out of the basement for good.  But believing he's now a permanent occupant of the penthouse is thinking like a starry-eyed fanboy.  Hahn is not being paid to be a fanboy.   Rewarding one good and  partially luck-driven season as though it's a fixture is the classic formula for getting bitten in the butt again.
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    Re: Avi's arbitration

    Post by rmapasad on Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:34 pm

    Avisail Garcia - OF - White Sox


    Avisail Garcia requested $6.7 million and was offered $5.85 million by the White Sox when arbitration figures were exchanged on Friday.

    They may still meet in the middle before next month's arbitration hearing. Garcia turned in a breakout campaign, slashing .330/.380/.506 with 18 home runs and 80 RBI last year.>>


    This seems about right.   $ 6.5 million, if that's what is agreed on, is a nice raise (120%) over what Avi got last year and yet Sox aren't out that much if he craters this year.  Sox could still work out an extension between now and the hearing date, or even afterward.  But hopefully common sense prevails and they meet in the middle or even fairly close to what Avi wanted and let Avi prove what he can do in 2018.
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    Re: Avi's arbitration

    Post by rmapasad on Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:07 pm

    5 Year extension makes tons of sense.  especially if they get a huge hometown discount>>
    One last item.  While I still think paying Avi his arb salary this year is the way to go, a short-term extension combined with option years would not be that foolish.  Knowing Avi will get close to $ 7 this year in arb, and probably no more than $ 11 mil in 2019 if he's real good in 2018, then a  a two year guaranteed $ 16 mil deal

    ( $7 + $ 9 m) with two option years at $ 30 million with a $ 1 buyout is not out of the question from the Sox standpoint.
    This way the Sox are only out an additional $ 9 mil from 2019 plus the $ 1 mil buyout if Avi stinks it up again, as they were going to pay him nearly $ 7 mil for 2018 anyway.  What Sox should NOT do is offer guaranteed money past 2020. 
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    Re: Avi's arbitration

    Post by Hawk Harrelson on Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:26 pm

    Hahn certainly is NOT a dumb ass Fanboy!!
    The STUPID ASS FANBOY, Murph, insisted Hahn had NO PLAN!!


    Looks like Hahn ALWAYS had a PLAN!!  He was just prevented from IMPLEMENTING the PLAN until James Shields arrived and BOMBED!!


    WIN NOW-RELOAD was for IDIOTS!!  It FAILED miserably year after year....but DUMB FUCK MURPH thought it was just GREAT!!

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