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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:39 am

    Roger wants us to think a player with an 825 OPS is nothing special.


    Well the KARK did a quick little coffee break study


    In 2016, 2 players had a 825 OPS and they ranked 53 & 54 among all MLBers with 400+ PA


    Now maybe 50 something doesn't sound like a first ballot HOFer, but think of this.  30 teams, so 1-30 would be the best player on a team.  825 OPS, if adjusted for park factor, would be a middle of the pack 2nd best players.  Not exactly chopped liver.  I think Roger needs to be less smug and less dismissive of these type of players and realize that guys with an 825 OPS ARE somebody you can build around.  Granted, you would probably like your best hitter to do better than a 825 OPS, but you also need a few guys that are significiantly above the league average.  AND YES 825 is significantly better.


    BTW, in 2016 in the AL, 8 teams had 1 or less hitters in the top 60 in raw OPS.  For the White Sox, they snuck in with Abreau at #57 with an 820 OPS.


    So I think its rather foolish to not appreciate what Avisail Garcia is doing.  Even at 825, he just doubled the number of top hitters OUR White Sox have.
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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:24 am

    Needed another cup of coffee


    Decided to see what OPS+ does to the study above.


    In 2016, 203 MLBers had 400+ PA.  35 of them had OPS+ 126 or higher.  Abreau came in at #41 with 820 OPS/124 OPS+


    So if Garcia were to finish at 825 OPS, that just might put him in that elite group of 126+ OPS+.  Gee, you would think the person here that bombards us with stats on a daily basis would be a little more appreciate of just how valuable an 825 OPS


    The White Sox would be wise to lock him up thru age 32, which according to my fingers is a 6 year extension
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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:32 pm

    Got some coffee this afternoon.


    Decided to look at my 2016 data a little more.


    I decided a regular is any hitter with 400+ AB.  The average stat line for these 203 players is 270/337/451.  That's an OPS of 788.  Only 92 players are above 788.


    Assuming 2016 is a typical year, this suggests there is basically 3 above average regular hitters available per team.


    This means that Garcia breakout is HUGE.  And if his OPS drops 100, its still huge.  Abreau is the only hitter OUR White Sox have that established he can OPS over 800.  Garcia now looks like an obvious 2nd.  Moncada is expected to be the 3rd.  Roberts appears to be another.  Hopefully he be #4, although I fear he may replace Abreau as #3.  Here's to hoping Robert is the ROY of 2020.  Then there are guys like Matt Davidson and Tim Anderson and Zach Collins that can join the crowd.


    That folks, is why the KARK is excited about 2018.  5 possible 800 OPS'ers with this bullpen and all those young gun arms on the farm.  Keeping Quintana just might be the best trade never made

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