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    Re: Prediction

    Post by Deplorable Mark on Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:09 am

    Dems need to start working up a list of 2020 candidates.


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    Re: Prediction

    Post by rmapasad on Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:23 am

    Cream1953 wrote:Look, I hate how this thing's turned out but life goes on. Regardless the winner of this thing you have the most unpopular president elect in our nation's history in either case. This country is on the verge of exploding internally...Trump might want to tread carefully. If he doesn't, there'll be consequences.

    I think we all want things to work out. We don't want a disaster. We don't want a major recession or even depression.   With some of Trump's pro-business policies there is a chance that the economy turns out fine.  But already worldwide financial markets are in a panic over fears of Trump's position on trade and tariffs and how he might influence US monetary policy.   It's entirely possible he could have an economic/financial crisis on his hands before even setting foot in the Oval Office. 

    Do I have confidence that he and his team of nutty, alt-right yes-men have the steadiness to handle all that comes their way ? Not really.  The words Trump and "treading carefully" do not belong in the same sentence. 

    We can only hope and pray that when Trump, the Republican Congress and conservative Supreme Court wield their wrecking ball to the rules, policies and structure which America has had for decades now that the devastation will not take our country too far down.  Problem is when you take the wrecking ball to something, you better have a good plan to rebuild (like health insurance, trade agreements, tax structure, etc) and Trump was amazingly light on details. 
    I don't want to be pessimistic.  I don't want this to be a failed or disastrous Presidency as there is too much at stake here for all of us.  But I cannot see much to be optimistic about.





     
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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:14 am

    SOMEONE SHOULD TAKE A WRECKING BALL TO YOUR INCREDIBLY BIASED STUPIDITY.


    YOU ARE JUST LIKE ROBZ.  SO ARROGANT YOU CAN'T ADMIT TO BEING WRONG NO MATTER HOW OBVIOUS, CAN'T CONCEDE ANY POINT NO MATTER HOW SMALL.  SO CONVINCED YOU ARE ALWAYS RIGHT TO CAN'T RESIST PROJECTING REGARDLESS OF HOW SILLY IT ENDS UP SOUNDING.


    BTW, YOU WANT TO TALK WRECKING BALL, JUST LOOK AT YOUR SIDE OF THE AISLE THE PAST 50-60 YEARS.


    NO MORE PRAYER IN SCHOOLS AND NOW WE HAVE A FUCKED UP EDUCATION SYSTEM MORE CONCERNED WITH BOYS IN THE GIRLS ROOM THAN THE 3 R'S


    1/2 THE CHILDREN BORN TODAY ARE BASTARD, LARGE PART TO LBJ'S NOT SO GREAT SOCIETY AND THIS FUCK UP NATION IS MORE CONCERNED THAT A GAY MAN HAS A HUSBAND.


    OBAMACARE COVERING A FRACTION OF THE PEOPLE IT PROMISED TO COVER WHILE DRIVING COST EVER UPWARDS.


    THE GLOBAL WARMING HOAX AND ITS INCREASED REGULATION THAT KILLS AS MANY JOBS AS OBAMACARE


    WIDE OPEN BORDERS.  SCREW ASSIMULATING TO AMERICAN CULTURE, JUST VOTE FOR THE LEFTY.  IN EXCHANGE WE WILL STEAL THE MONEY FROM RICH WHITE PEOPLE TO GIVE IT TO YOU.


    IF ANYBODY IS A DIVIDER, ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND SEVERAL OTHERS ON THIS BOARD AND CAN'T GET OVER YOUR "REPUBLICANS JUST PLAIN SUCK" BIGOTRY.


    GROW UP AND GET OVER YOUR SELF.
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    Re: Prediction

    Post by rmapasad on Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:04 am


    GROW UP AND GET OVER YOUR SELF. >>

    Fuck you, your asshole personality and your piss-poor reading comprehension skills.  Did you even read the sentence "I don't want a failed Presidency" from him?

    No, because you're too busy foaming at your over-sized mouth and launching into your usual alt-right crap that is parroted from talk show idiots..


    What I care about is what will affect the country at large and my family.   The economy is front and center. Again, you didn't read where I said "with some of Trump's pro-business policies maybe the economy turns out fine."  I HOPE IT DOES, numbnuts. 

    Unlike a classless jerk like you who would be not wishing Clinton well had she managed to eek out close wins in Mich, Wisc and Penn and won this thing.

    If the world is concerned about trade wars, that's a problem. If the deficits run too high under Trump and the Congress takes a cleaver to Social Security and Medicare, that affects me and many others.  I am concerned about the 15 million people, including two of my employees, who may lose health insurance because of pre-existing medical conditions after Obamacare's guarantee goes away.

    You can gloat your ass off about transgender bathrooms going away, but that is all meaningless bullshit when compared to what will happen to our economy.  Trump's "plans" are sketchy at best and could be huge blunders at worst. 

    This isn't "Republicans suck" bigotry.  It's legit concern about what will happen.  And all the over-simplified talk show babble about fracking, coal, and tariffs reviving the US economy is pure nonsense.  Business will be watching carefully and they will respond if they see something in Trump's plans either good or bad. I sincerely hope it will be for the good.   I have far, far more desire to see a successful America under Trump

    than for a Democratic win in 2020.  If Dems win in 2020 it will be because Trump has driven the country into the ditch and that's not good for any of us.
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    Re: Prediction

    Post by Deplorable Mark on Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:54 am

    Fuck you, your asshole personality and your piss-poor reading comprehension skills.  Did you even read the sentence "I don't want a failed Presidency" from him? 


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    Yes, and then I read this:



    Do I have confidence that he and his team of nutty, alt-right yes-men


    and then I read this:



    We can only hope and pray that when Trump, the Republican Congress and conservative Supreme Court wield their wrecking ball to the rules, policies and structure which America has had for decades now that the devastation will not take our country too far down. 



    SO SPARE ME YOUR DOUBLE TALK.  BECAUSE I REREAD YOUR POST AND ITS BASICALLY SAYING 





    GEE, I HOPE THE NEXT 4 YEARS WON'T SUCK AS MUCH AS I THINK THEY PROBABLY WILL

    I READ IT 100% CORRECT.  PS, THIS LINE OF YOURS PROVES YOUR STUPIDITY


    And all the over-simplified talk show babble about fracking, coal, and tariffs reviving the US economy is pure nonsense.



    FRACKING IS WHY GAS IS $2 AND NOT $4.  THE PRICE OF GAS EFFECTS EVERYTHING!!!!  THE FACT THAT IT IS HALF OF WHAT IT WAS 4 YEARS AGO IS WHAT FUELED WHATEVER GROWTH WE HAD THE PAST 4 YEARS.  FOR YOU TO DISMISS IT AS TALK SHOW BABBLE JUST PROVES TO ME THAT YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A MINDLESS LEFTWING PARROT.


    SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY SHOWING THE CLASS YOU CLAIM I LACK.


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    Re: Prediction

    Post by Soxillinirob on Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:55 am

    Good grief, Kark.  Your guy won and you're going scorched earth on people.  You remind me of the Cub fans that watched their team win the World Series and instead chose to complain about the announcer, Joe Buck.
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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:56 am

    Trump's "plans" are sketchy at best


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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:11 pm

    Soxillinirob wrote:Good grief, Kark.  Your guy won and you're going scorched earth on people.  You remind me of the Cub fans that watched their team win the World Series and instead chose to complain about the announcer, Joe Buck.
    NOT EVERYBODY


    I APOLOGIZED TO ROSEBOWL.  WAS KIND TO JOHN.  DON'T RECALL BEING MEAN TO CREAM


    BUT PEOPLE LIKE ROGER AND TIMMY DESERVE IT.


    SO SPARE ME YOUR DOUBLE TALK.  BECAUSE YOUR ANOTHER ONE THAT IS CONSTANTLY WRITING


    "WHY DO REPUBLICANS SUCK SO MUCH"


    IN BETWEEN EVERY LINE YOU POST.


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    AND AGAIN, ITS WRONG TO COMPARE THIS TO A WORLD SERIES WIN.


    TRUMP WON A JOB OUT OF SPRING TRAINING.


    TRUTH BE TOLD, I AM NOT OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE NEXT 4 YEARS.


    TRUMP WILL BE MORE LIKE CHEMO THAN VIAGRA
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    Re: Prediction

    Post by Shooters Buffet on Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:25 pm

    Wife just made a killing on the Stock Market.


    Between the Cubs and this magnificent RINO Donny Trump there is SOME upside!!
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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:06 pm

    Shooters Buffet wrote:Wife just made a killing on the Stock Market.


    Between the Cubs and this magnificent RINO Donny Trump there is SOME upside!!
     

    I SEE THE DOW IS ABOUT 120 FROM AN ALL TIME HIGH

    S&P ABOUT 30

    NASDAQ SLIGHTLY OVER 100

    LOOKS LIKE THE OVER NITE PANIC WAS ISOLATED TO THOSE GRUBBY FORIEGNERS

    LOOKS LIKE REAL AMERICA IS SPEAKING AGAIN TODAY

    LOOKS LIKE THE NEW GUEST JUMPED THE GUN LAST NITE WHEN HE F/U'd MY BUYING OPPORTUNITY

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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:56 pm

    Guest wrote:Its starting - Finance alert - Dow Futures DOWN 700 points .. World markets diving downward - welcome to Trumpland making America great again ..


    48 HOURS LATER AND THE DOW IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH


    LMAO!!!!!!!


    HOPE DR GUEST GOT HIS MONEY OUT IN TIME


    HE'LL NEED ALL THAT CASH TO PREPARE FOR RACHAL MADDOW'S DOOMSDAY


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    Re: Prediction

    Post by frank bonifacic on Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:35 pm

    Deplorable Mark wrote:
    Cream1953 wrote:Look, I hate how this thing's turned out but life goes on. Regardless the winner of this thing you have the most unpopular president elect in our nation's history in either case. This country is on the verge of exploding internally...Trump might want to tread carefully. If he doesn't, there'll be consequences.


    THE KARK AGREES 100%

    ONE GOOD THING ABOUT TRUMP IS THAT I DOUBT CONGRESS WILL BLINDLY FOLLOW HIM JUST BECAUSE HE RAN AS AN "R"

    THE KARK IS HOPING THAT CONGRESS WILL BEGIN TO RE-ASSERT THE AUTHORITY IS SEEM TO BE GIVING AWAY THE PAST 16 YEARS.

    I ALSO HOPE THAT TRUMP UNDERSTANDS THAT WINNING THE PRESIDENCY IS THE FIRST STEP.  I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT HILLARY CONSIDERED IT A FINAL ONE.  MY IMPRESSION IS THAT HILLARY WOULD HAVE JUST BASKED IN THE GLORY OF BEING QUEEN AS LEFTWING PYSCOPHANTS DEFENDED HER EVERY MOVE.  I HOPE TRUMP WILL HAVE HIS FEET HELD TO THE FIRE ON EVERY STEP HE TAKES.  AND THEY SHOULD BE.

    IF EITHER OF THE TWO CAN BRIDGE THE EVER WIDENING GAP AMOUNG THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION IS TRUMP.  AFTER ALL, ITS HILLARY THAT PRIDED HERSELF ON BEING THE GOP#1 ENEMY.  IT WAS HILLARY THAT CALLED TRUMP SUPPORTERS DEPLORABLE.  THE MEAN THINGS TRUMP SAID HAVE BEEN LARGELY TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.  I DON'T RECALL HIM SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT BLACKS OR GAYS.  HIS SOCALLED ATTACKS ON WOMEN WERE REALLY ATTACKS ON SPECIFIC WOMEN THAT DECIDED TO GO AFTER HIM.  TRUMP IS NOT ANTI HISPANIC.  HE IS ANTI ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.  ITS THE LEFT THAT CONSTANTLY TIES THESE TWO TOGETHER.

    FINALLY, DURING THE CAMPAIGN, TRUMP STOPPED TO OPEN A HOTEL.  HE CLAIMED IT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.  WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A POLITICIAN SAID THAT?  THAT IS WHAT WE NEED IN DC.

    THE KARK IS CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISITC ABOUT A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.  I BELIEVE HE IS RIGHT ON ENERGY.  I BELIEVE HE IS RIGHT ON IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEES.  I BELIEVE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS HAS BEEN SLOWLY KILLING THIS NATION AND THAT ALSO PLAYED A PART IN PEOPLE VOTING FOR TRUMP.

    XOXOXOXOX
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    PS, IF I'M TRUMP, I GIVE HILLARY A BLANKET PARDON UNDER THE CONDITION THAT HER  AND HER FOUNDATION UNDER GO COMPLETE AUDITS BEGINNING THE TAX YEAR 2017
    Foundations do go under audit. That's how they know Trump didn't contribute to his for the last 8 years and that he used foundarion $ to settle lawsuits and pay for self portraits.
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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:18 pm

    PS, IF I'M TRUMP, I GIVE HILLARY A BLANKET PARDON UNDER THE CONDITION THAT HER  AND HER FOUNDATION UNDER GO COMPLETE AUDITS BEGINNING THE TAX YEAR 2017
    Foundations do go under audit. That's how they know Trump didn't contribute to his for the last 8 years and that he used foundarion $ to settle lawsuits and pay for self portraits.


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    So Frank


    The KARK suggests that Trump drop all the Clinton investigations (emails, foundation, Benghazi), which I think would be obvious by the phrase blanket pardon.


    in exchange, no more Clinton funny business from now on.  Funny business most of America thinks she is guilty of.


    You do see that the KARK is suggesting to let bygones be bygones dontcha?




    So is taking little jabs at me and not so little jabs at Trump really how you want to respond to the KARK when he is attempting to be somewhat reasonable




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    Post by rmapasad on Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:22 pm

    THE KARK AGREES 100%
    ONE GOOD THING ABOUT TRUMP IS THAT I DOUBT CONGRESS WILL BLINDLY FOLLOW HIM JUST BECAUSE HE RAN AS AN "R"
    THE KARK IS HOPING THAT CONGRESS WILL BEGIN TO RE-ASSERT THE AUTHORITY IS SEEM TO BE GIVING AWAY THE PAST 16 YEARS.
    I ALSO HOPE THAT TRUMP UNDERSTANDS THAT WINNING THE PRESIDENCY IS THE FIRST STEP.  I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT HILLARY CONSIDERED IT A FINAL ONE.  MY IMPRESSION IS THAT HILLARY WOULD HAVE JUST BASKED IN THE GLORY OF BEING QUEEN AS LEFTWING PYSCOPHANTS DEFENDED HER EVERY MOVE.  I HOPE TRUMP WILL HAVE HIS FEET HELD TO THE FIRE ON EVERY STEP HE TAKES.  AND THEY SHOULD BE.
    IF EITHER OF THE TWO CAN BRIDGE THE EVER WIDENING GAP AMOUNG THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION IS TRUMP.  AFTER ALL, ITS HILLARY THAT PRIDED HERSELF ON BEING THE GOP#1 ENEMY.  IT WAS HILLARY THAT CALLED TRUMP SUPPORTERS DEPLORABLE.  THE MEAN THINGS TRUMP SAID HAVE BEEN LARGELY TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.  I DON'T RECALL HIM SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT BLACKS OR GAYS.  HIS SOCALLED ATTACKS ON WOMEN WERE REALLY ATTACKS ON SPECIFIC WOMEN THAT DECIDED TO GO AFTER HIM.  TRUMP IS NOT ANTI HISPANIC.  HE IS ANTI ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.  ITS THE LEFT THAT CONSTANTLY TIES THESE TWO TOGETHER.
    FINALLY, DURING THE CAMPAIGN, TRUMP STOPPED TO OPEN A HOTEL.  HE CLAIMED IT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.  WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A POLITICIAN SAID THAT?  THAT IS WHAT WE NEED IN DC.
    THE KARK IS CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISITC ABOUT A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.  I BELIEVE HE IS RIGHT ON ENERGY.  I BELIEVE HE IS RIGHT ON IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEES.  I BELIEVE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS HAS BEEN SLOWLY KILLING THIS NATION AND THAT ALSO PLAYED A PART IN PEOPLE VOTING FOR TRUMP.
    XOXOXOXOX
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    PS, IF I'M TRUMP, I GIVE HILLARY A BLANKET PARDON UNDER THE CONDITION THAT HER  AND HER FOUNDATION UNDER GO COMPLETE AUDITS BEGINNING THE TAX YEAR 2017[/quote]

    Basically agree. From his behavior so far since winning, there seems to be a dichotomy between the Trump Campaigner/Entertainer and Trump the President. Ben Carson described Trump as "somber" when he found out he won, rather than the gloating, lord-it-over Trump some of us might have expected. Hope that holds. Trump's campaign persona fit the type of voter he needed to win plus it also provided a perfect segway for him to be an activist in a conservative media network which was his Plan B if he had lost.
    He is going through the honeymoon phase now when everyone kisses the ass of the President-elect, but when the legislative/governing battles start, we'll see how much of the "old Trump" returns and who gets dumped on hardest. He has made a lot of promises and who knows how many he will feel compelled to push through when he sees the practical obstacles/ consequences. Particularly the tariff stuff. That could really backfire on the economy and stock market if he pushes those too hard.

    We'll also see how compassionate he is on deportations and people who lose their health insurance when Obamacare goes away. I hope someone reminds him that Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million illegals even as he passed legislation against employers hiring illegals. Trump has never been a big ideology guy and has swung between moderate and conservative depending on issues. That will serve him well. I hope he tells Cruz and Tea Partyists to go fuck themselves if and when they start up their campaign to privatize Social Security and Medicare.












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    Re: Prediction

    Post by rmapasad on Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:49 pm

    [quote="Deplorable Mark"]
    PS, IF I'M TRUMP, I GIVE HILLARY A BLANKET PARDON UNDER THE CONDITION THAT HER  AND HER FOUNDATION UNDER GO COMPLETE AUDITS BEGINNING THE TAX YEAR 2017
    Foundations do go under audit. That's how they know Trump didn't contribute to his for the last 8 years and that he used foundarion $ to settle lawsuits and pay

    [size=16]The KARK suggests that Trump drop all the Clinton investigations (emails, foundation, Benghazi), which I think would be obvious by the phrase blanket pardon.

    in exchange, no more Clinton funny business from now on.  Funny business most of America thinks she is guilty of.
    You do see that the KARK is suggesting to let bygones be bygones dontcha?

    So is taking little jabs at me and not so little jabs at Trump really how you want to respond to the KARK when he is attempting to be somewhat reasonable


    Your stance is reasonable, practical and very fair. If Trump really wants to heal the country and do what he was elected for, incredible waste of his time and bad optics to be going after HRC. Of course, there was this promise he made in the debate to appoint a Special Prosecutor and "clean up the swamp". So a pardon at this point looks like a sell-out. The right wing would crucify him.
    A House Chairman has already promised to hold further hearings on Clinton's emails and foundations, so let Congress be the bad guys,. They either make or don't make the recommendation to turn this over to the Justice Dept. If it does get turned over to Justice, then it has to go to Grand Jury and then trial. Clinton has a team of lawyers and will fight this tooth and nail, so the jury could be the ones who let her off.



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    Post by frank bonifacic on Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:22 pm

    Deplorable Mark wrote:
    PS, IF I'M TRUMP, I GIVE HILLARY A BLANKET PARDON UNDER THE CONDITION THAT HER  AND HER FOUNDATION UNDER GO COMPLETE AUDITS BEGINNING THE TAX YEAR 2017
    Foundations do go under audit. That's how they know Trump didn't contribute to his for the last 8 years and that he used foundarion $ to settle lawsuits and pay for self portraits.


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    So Frank


    The KARK suggests that Trump drop all the Clinton investigations (emails, foundation, Benghazi), which I think would be obvious by the phrase blanket pardon.


    in exchange, no more Clinton funny business from now on.  Funny business most of America thinks she is guilty of.


    You do see that the KARK is suggesting to let bygones be bygones dontcha?




    So is taking little jabs at me and not so little jabs at Trump really how you want to respond to the KARK when he is attempting to be somewhat reasonable




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    Where do you see a jab at you- unless you consider someone saying you are missing something is taking a jab at you.
    Like many here, I would hope that the job changed the man- but I'm not optimistic.
    My thought for the next 4 years ( whether he stays or goes - if he goes it will still be a republican ) is that the poor, the elderly, the disabled, the middle class and the veterans are in for hard times.
    The republican budget balancing act ( which he has reiterated) is tax cuts for the wealthy and corporation with the shortfall being covered by those with out the cash contributions.
    And yes, I included veterans. There is always lip service about defense but that usually translated into $ for defense & munitions makers. 
    They talk about caring for our vets, but after the election we have cuts to the VA, and cuts in combat pay - which has occurred or attempted 3 times in the last ten years.
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    Post by Soxillinirob on Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:32 pm

    rmapasad wrote:
    Deplorable Mark wrote:
    PS, IF I'M TRUMP, I GIVE HILLARY A BLANKET PARDON UNDER THE CONDITION THAT HER  AND HER FOUNDATION UNDER GO COMPLETE AUDITS BEGINNING THE TAX YEAR 2017
    Foundations do go under audit. That's how they know Trump didn't contribute to his for the last 8 years and that he used foundarion $ to settle lawsuits and pay

    The KARK suggests that Trump drop all the Clinton investigations (emails, foundation, Benghazi), which I think would be obvious by the phrase blanket pardon.
    in exchange, no more Clinton funny business from now on.  Funny business most of America thinks she is guilty of.
    You do see that the KARK is suggesting to let bygones be bygones dontcha?

    So is taking little jabs at me and not so little jabs at Trump really how you want to respond to the KARK when he is attempting to be somewhat reasonable


    Your stance is reasonable, practical and very fair. If Trump really wants to heal the country and do what he was elected for, incredible waste of his time and bad optics to be going after HRC. Of course, there was this promise he made in the debate to appoint a Special Prosecutor and "clean up the swamp".  So a pardon at this point looks like a sell-out.  The right wing would crucify him.
    A House Chairman has already promised to hold further hearings on Clinton's emails and foundations, so let Congress be the bad guys,. They either make or don't make the recommendation to turn this over to the Justice Dept.  If it does get turned over to Justice, then it has to go to Grand Jury and then trial. Clinton has a team of lawyers and will fight this tooth and nail, so the jury could be the ones who let her off.


    A blanket pardon for what, exactly?  She's been investigated and cleared for the email fiasco.  The FBI, according to higher up officials, noted that they took a quick look at the foundation shortly after Clinton Cash came out, but found nothing of note that even led them to believe they needed to look further.  She's sure as shit not under any chance of indictment for BEN-fucking-Ghazi.  Does she need a pardon?  Does she want a pardon?  would she even accept one?  If she accepts any such pardon, doesn't it almost make her look like she's admitting to having done something wrong?  


    As far as any suggestion that she undergo some kind of double dog audits to her foundation, I suspect she'd say "That's fine, and I don't need a pardon because I've done nothing illegal."  Roger is spot on.  He'd take heat for offering it, and I'll add that Hillary ain't going to accept having her lasting legacy be that she skated on some kind of pardon.  Pretty sure she's of the belief she's done nothing wrong and would welcome whatever they want to investigate.  Plus, what do they have to gain by monkeying around and drumming up some minor charge?  Do they have clear evidence to even warrant further looking into this?  


    There is nothing further to gain by investigating bullshit on Hillary, and unless there's some truly smoking gun with clear evidence of wrongdoing outside of the scope of minor infractions, we're done seeing Clinton investigations.
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    Post by rmapasad on Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:22 am

    << There is nothing further to gain by investigating bullshit on Hillary, and unless there's some truly smoking gun with clear evidence of wrongdoing outside of the scope of minor infractions, we're done seeing Clinton investigations. >>
    Entirely possible that Obama could grant a pardon to HRC, announcing in the process that he doesn't think she is guilty of any crime but that this pardon will prevent any further attempts to waste Justice Dept resources, heal the country, etc.  He calls Trump and tells him this alleviates the pressure he will get from the right wing of his party to follow through on the Special Prosecutor promise, lets Trump get on with processs of governing, etc.
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    Post by Soxillinirob on Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:34 am

    Yeah, he might offer that, but let me be the first to suggest that HRC would reject the shit out of that. That would be a PR nightmare for her and Obama.
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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:13 am

    A blanket pardon for what, exactly? 


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    Post by Deplorable Mark on Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:24 am

    rmapasad wrote:
    Deplorable Mark wrote:
    PS, IF I'M TRUMP, I GIVE HILLARY A BLANKET PARDON UNDER THE CONDITION THAT HER  AND HER FOUNDATION UNDER GO COMPLETE AUDITS BEGINNING THE TAX YEAR 2017
    Foundations do go under audit. That's how they know Trump didn't contribute to his for the last 8 years and that he used foundarion $ to settle lawsuits and pay

    The KARK suggests that Trump drop all the Clinton investigations (emails, foundation, Benghazi), which I think would be obvious by the phrase blanket pardon.
    in exchange, no more Clinton funny business from now on.  Funny business most of America thinks she is guilty of.
    You do see that the KARK is suggesting to let bygones be bygones dontcha?

    So is taking little jabs at me and not so little jabs at Trump really how you want to respond to the KARK when he is attempting to be somewhat reasonable


    Your stance is reasonable, practical and very fair. If Trump really wants to heal the country and do what he was elected for, incredible waste of his time and bad optics to be going after HRC. Of course, there was this promise he made in the debate to appoint a Special Prosecutor and "clean up the swamp".  So a pardon at this point looks like a sell-out.  The right wing would crucify him.
    A House Chairman has already promised to hold further hearings on Clinton's emails and foundations, so let Congress be the bad guys,. They either make or don't make the recommendation to turn this over to the Justice Dept.  If it does get turned over to Justice, then it has to go to Grand Jury and then trial. Clinton has a team of lawyers and will fight this tooth and nail, so the jury could be the ones who let her off.




    THANK YOU FOR COMPREHENDING!!!!!!!!

    FURTHERMORE, IT HAS TO BE TRUMP AND NOT OBAMA

    ALSO, I THINK HILLARY NEEDS TO APPEAR TO GIVE UP SOMETHING.

    BUT IF SHE AGREES TO JUST GO AWAY, PEOPLE WILL FORGET ABOUT HER SOME ENOUGH.

    FINALLY, TRUMP SURVIVED LEFTWING CRUCIFIXATION, I'M SURE HE CAN SURVIVE IT FROM THE RIGHT.  PART OF HIS CHARM IS HIS "F" THE MEDIA ATTITUDE

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    PS, I DON'T WANT CONGRESS PLAYING THE BAD GUY EITHER.  WHAT IS THE POINT OF TRUMP HOLDING OUT AN OLIVE BRANCH JUST TO HAVE PAUL RYAN SNAP IT IN TWO.

    TIME TO START THE HEALING.  I WOULD THINK ALLOWING HILLARY TO WALK OFF INTO THE SUNSET WOULD BE A NICE SYMBOLIC GESTURE

    THANK YOU ROGER FOR UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS MY POINT
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    Re: Prediction

    Post by Soxillinirob on Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:25 am

    Deplorable Mark wrote:A blanket pardon for what, exactly? 


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    YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO GET IT

    ARE YOU

    Oh, I get it.  Let's pretend that the Benghazi hearings are anything more than a witch hunt and that HRC needs a pardon from that.  Let's pretend that the email "scandal" is still boiling and she's gonna get hers soon.  Let's pretend that there's some big smoking gun of quid pro quo that she changed gov't policy in order to grow her charitable foundation.  And let's pretend she needs to beg for or hope for some kind of pardon from Obama before meanie Donald puts her in jail.  Right.  Live in your alternative universe.  Look at the level of what Gen Patreaus did.  THAT is a scandal.  That is very illegal.  He purposefully and knowingly provided classified and confidential documents to a mistress outside of the government.  And for that, he rec'd a slap on the wrist and a gov't job.  You think Hillary is going to jail?  fat chance.  Get real.  Your hate for her will not translate into criminal charges.
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    Re: Prediction

    Post by Shooters Buffet on Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:34 am

    Time for Billary to move along.
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    Re: Prediction

    Post by Deplorable Mark on Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:35 am

    rmapasad wrote:<< There is nothing further to gain by investigating bullshit on Hillary, and unless there's some truly smoking gun with clear evidence of wrongdoing outside of the scope of minor infractions, we're done seeing Clinton investigations. >>
    Entirely possible that Obama could grant a pardon to HRC, announcing in the process that he doesn't think she is guilty of any crime but that this pardon will prevent any further attempts to waste Justice Dept resources, heal the country, etc.  He calls Trump and tells him this alleviates the pressure he will get from the right wing of his party to follow through on the Special Prosecutor promise, lets Trump get on with processs of governing, etc.


    IT CAN'T BE OBAMA

    THAT JUST LOOKS BAD

    HAS TO BE TRUMP.

    HE NEEDS TO EXTEND THE OLIVE BRANCH.

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    PS, A CERTAIN SOMEONE HERE NEEDS TO GET OVER HIS MEDIA OBSESSION AND POLITICAL FANBOYISM AND STOP TREATING THIS LIKE SOME KIND OF SOX CUB GAME.  ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN THIS NATION IS POLITICIANS DOING WHAT LOOKS GOOD INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT IS RIGHT.

    FIGURES IT WOULD BE ROBZ ONCE AGAIN NOT GETTING
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    Re: Prediction

    Post by Soxillinirob on Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:36 am

    Shooters Buffet wrote:Time for Billary to move along.
     Damn straight.  And I think they are ready and willing.  
    Can you believe I've heard people suggest that Hillary is still the leader of the Dem party?  Really?  Move along.  Go do your charitable work.  Also heard it suggested she'll be the keynote speaker of the 2020 DNC.  REALLY?

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