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    Post by Guest on Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:23 pm

    Your team scores 2 runs and almost every hitter you have is hitting under .240, but yet, the umpire cost you the game, which was announced in the top of the 2nd. Hawks getting senile. 

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    Post by frank bonifacic on Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:47 pm

    Chi-kid wrote:Your team scores 2 runs and almost every hitter you have is hitting under .240, but yet, the umpire cost you the game, which was announced in the top of the 2nd. Hawks getting senile. 

    Seven consecutive games where they have scored zero or one run for Quintana!!!
    How absolutely pathetic!
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    Post by Shooters Buffet on Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:14 am

    Same shit show....different season.


    Reinsdorf told Bruce the Douche Levine in passing that the Sox are GOING FOR IT THIS YEAR!!!


    Looks like Reinsdorf sets the tone for lunacy.
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    Post by alohafri on Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:13 pm

    Shooters Buffet wrote:Same shit show....different season.


    Reinsdorf told Bruce the Douche Levine in passing that the Sox are GOING FOR IT THIS YEAR!!!


    Looks like Reinsdorf sets the tone for lunacy.

    Maybe he has some special insight that all of the other teams in the American League are losing 10 players each due to PED suspensions.
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    Post by rmapasad on Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:39 pm

    Shooters Buffet wrote:Same shit show....different season.
    Reinsdorf told Bruce the Douche Levine in passing that the Sox are GOING FOR IT THIS YEAR!!!  
    Looks like Reinsdorf sets the tone for lunacy.


    Sox will have to decide whether they're buyers or sellers by last week of July.  They have 35 games between now and then, and 20 are against teams over .500.   If they play their typical .432 ball against winning teams and .608 ball against losing teams,  they'll be sitting at 51-51 at the trade deadline.  

    That will probably leave them no better than 3rd place in Central, plus 3-4 teams to jump over for the last wild card.   Not good odds, but not an obvious white flag.  Since the Sox have already done a "win-now" deal for Shields, I suspect they'd try to keep hope alive even with a .500 team at the deadline.  
    They'd have to keep tanking over the next month and be something like 46-56 at the deadline for management to become sellers.  Vets they could put up for sale would have to be guys like Robertson, Cabrera, and maybe Frazier.

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    Post by Guest on Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:20 pm

    That will probably leave them no better than 3rd place in Central, plus 3-4 teams to jump over for the last wild card.   Not good odds, but not an obvious white flag


    Shitttt, the sox white flagged it when they were in 2nd place 3 games out. Stop underestimating them. They can always do the wrong thing. 
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    Post by rmapasad on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:03 pm

    Shitttt, the sox white flagged it when they were in 2nd place 3 games out. Stop underestimating them. They can always do the wrong thing.   >>
    Yeah, that was pretty weird.   Sox basically flipped Baines for a nobody who didn't even make the majors, where Baines still had a little left in the tank ( 4 WAR over next 3 years).  So it was a wasted opportunity of sorts.
    The 6 for 3 deal with the Giants made some sense as Alvarez and Hernandez were at peak value and Hernandez was aging.  But Hernandez hung on as a decent reliever for the next 8 years.  Overall the Sox made out OK, considering that Foulke and Howry were good contributors to the 2000 team.   But other 4 guys Sox got were basically scrubs and when the Sox flipped Foulke, it wasn't for a good return (Koch).    In short, the trade was not a HR for the Sox, more like a single or double.
    Meaning that just adopting a strategy of rebuilding with youth is no assurance of future success - you have to target the right players to rebuild with...





    ght Arguably, the '97 trade helped the Sox win in '00 because Foulke and Howry were key relievers that year.   But overall, the Sox didn't really profit on a net, net basis from trading Baines, Alvarez and Hernandez as they combined for 20 WAR after the Sox, where Foulke, Howry, Barceló, Caruso, Vining and the guys the Sox ultimately traded Foulke for (Koch, Cotts) combined for 20 WAR in their Sox careers. 

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