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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by rmapasad on Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:48 am

    frank bonifacic wrote:Word on the Score was that Sox apparently promised him 20 or so starts. He signed with them based on that. Figures if he gets a decent year, he'll make the money up next year (don't you just love the thought that if you have a good year, you can make up the money you lost taking THREE MILLION DOLLARS!!)
    This sounds like Latos. Sure he still thinks of himself as this stud pitcher who must get proper respect from his employer.  This has to be an unenforcable verbal promise as a team would be crazy to put something like that into a contract.  If he has  a 7.00 ERA after 5 starts (like he did with the Dodgers), he could go the MBPLU or sue because the team doesn't give him his remaining 15 ? 

    Latos made nearly $ 10 million last year so his 4.95 ERA, along with getting dumped by three teams, cost him a bundle.  Right now, he should concentrate on how to get out of Spring Training and starts 1,2, and 3 in one piece before he worries about next year's paycheck.
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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by rmapasad on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:21 am

    Shooters Buffet wrote:What does Harvey think of this HUGE MOVE????

    I can imagine that some stat guys on Hahn's staff were happy about this move. Despite Latos' lousy ERA and W-L record, his underlying peripherals were still respectable (3-1 K/BB ratio, 3.72 FIP).   He could turn out to be a good bargain as a 4th/5th starter.
    But the stat guys could also have told Hahn (and may have to no avail) that the Sox needed a bigger move than this to get over the hump.  Dan Symborski, the stat projector, has the Sox at 81 wins for this season and in an interview recently he said they needed to make even greater improvements on offense to have been considered a legit contender for postseason.
    As per usual, Reinsdorf's attempts to win through nickel and dime bargains could leave the Sox a day late and dollar short. 

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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by MGJOHNSON on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:23 am

    frank bonifacic wrote:
    rmapasad wrote:
    MGJOHNSON wrote:Perhaps Cooper has found a kindred spirit he can turn around. bounce



    Rick Honeycutt tried to talk to Latos last year when he got traded to the Dodgers, but Latos was a hard-headed

    dick.  That's one reason that LA abruptly DFA'ed him after his last bad outing and everyone's sentiment was "don't
    let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, douchebag."
    Maybe Cooper can get through to Latos since this Latos' last shot to prove he still belongs in the majors. It's 
    not like he can shun a noted pitching coach's help.  But with his knee and elbow problems, he's at 92-93 now
    instead of 95-97 like in his heyday. He hasn't adapted real well. But he still has good enough secondary stuff
    to be effective at times.
    Bottom line: he's still capable enough that 1/2 of his outings could be decent and at $ 3 mil  that's about all
    anybody can ask of a fifth starter.   He also has the 50 cent head which means when he gets in trouble
    he can implode.  An aging version of Nuke LaLoosh is not always pretty to watch.

    Word on the Score was that Sox apparently promised him 20 or so starts. He signed with them based on that. Figures if he gets a decent year, he'll make the money up next year (don't you just love the thought that if you have a good year, you can make up the money you lost taking THREE MILLION DOLLARS!!)

    They can promise him anything; but if he's not healthy, he's not likely to pitch.  However, if he is healthy, there's a good chance that he'll bounce back to being a top pitcher.

    Latos has very good control, even last season his K/W ratio was better than 3 to 1 (100 to 32 over 116-1/3 innings).  His real stinky part of last season came with the 24-1/3 innings that he pitched with the Dodgers where he was 0-3 with a 6.66 ERA, but still he maintained that 3K to 1W ratio (18 to 6).  As Roger pointed out, there was a disconnect in LA and apparently some animosity between him and the Dodger pitching coach.

    Overall with 3 teams last season, his ERA was 4.95, which is almost 1-1/2 runs per game above his career average of 3.51 encompassing seven seasons.  It wouldn't be surprising at all for Latos to return to his previous form if he's healthy.
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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by rmapasad on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:52 am

    As far as clubhouse demeanor, there have been a lot of great pitchers who would never win a Mr. Congeniality contest.  Steve Carlton and Curt Schilling come to mind.  Besides, it could be a bunch of B.S.  Anyway, there's a lot to gain if he returns to his former effectiveness and not much to lose if he doesn't.  And, yes, I have thought about possible similarities with Esteban Loiaza as another pitcher picked up off the trash heap.  Jim often points toward picking up experienced pitchers when they are on their downside.  The risk is rather low, and sometimes it pays off big.

    Guys can be dicks in the clubhouse as long as they pitch like Schilling in his prime. When they have 5.00 ERA's, they can wear out their welcomes pretty quick. 
    As to Loiaza, that was the freakiest, flukiest thing imaginable. He was a punching bag in  every other season except for that miraculous one with the Sox. Absolutely no one saw that coming. With Latos, some sort of turnaround would not be such a big surprise as he's been a good pitcher for 4 out of his 7 seasons.  In fact, there's a lot more reason to think Latos could be a good pitcher for the Sox than anyone ever thought Loiaza would be. 
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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by Shooters Buffet on Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:56 am

    I heard he gets in people's faces!!


    Good!!


    The Sox, last in offense and DEFENSE....need a red ass!!!
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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by alohafri on Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:02 pm

    Shooters Buffet wrote:I heard he gets in people's faces!!




    God, I read this originally as "feces". I almost busted out laughing.
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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by Shooters Buffet on Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:11 pm

    GETTING OLD!!!!  Eyes play tricks on you!!

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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by MGJOHNSON on Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:17 pm

    alohafri wrote:
    Shooters Buffet wrote:I heard he gets in people's faces!!




    God, I read this originally as "feces". I almost busted out laughing.

    LOL.  Maybe since he's "only" making $3 million this summer, he might be moonlighting in a medical lab testing stool samples. Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by MGJOHNSON on Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:21 pm

    As per usual, Reinsdorf's attempts to win through nickel and dime bargains could leave the Sox a day late and dollar short.
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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by Guest on Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:29 pm

    rmapasad wrote:
    frank bonifacic wrote:Word on the Score was that Sox apparently promised him 20 or so starts. He signed with them based on that. Figures if he gets a decent year, he'll make the money up next year (don't you just love the thought that if you have a good year, you can make up the money you lost taking THREE MILLION DOLLARS!!)
    This sounds like Latos. Sure he still thinks of himself as this stud pitcher who must get proper respect from his employer.  This has to be an unenforcable verbal promise as a team would be crazy to put something like that into a contract.  If he has  a 7.00 ERA after 5 starts (like he did with the Dodgers), he could go the MBPLU or sue because the team doesn't give him his remaining 15 ? 

    Latos made nearly $ 10 million last year so his 4.95 ERA, along with getting dumped by three teams, cost him a bundle.  Right now, he should concentrate on how to get out of Spring Training and starts 1,2, and 3 in one piece before he worries about next year's paycheck.



    LATOS WILL GET 32 STARTS; WHILE SHOWING TO BE THE DRYSDALE TO CHRIS SALE'S KOUFAX.  HE WILL BE THE RIGHTHANDED STUD TO SLIP BETWEEN SALE AND QUINTANA.

    AND ALL THE LATOS INTOLERANT HATERS ON THIS BOARD WILL KICK MY BLACK ASS WHEN LATOS WINS 15, THE COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR AND GIVES REINSDORF HIS 2ND RING B4 RICKETTS GETS HIS FIRST
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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by rmapasad on Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:07 pm

    I heard he gets in people's faces!!
    Good!!
    The Sox, last in offense and DEFENSE....need a red ass!!!  >
    Maybe if pitching doesn't work out for him, he could MANAGE.  Kenny Williams' alter ego on the bench.  

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    Re: Sox Sign Mat Latos

    Post by Guest on Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:38 pm

    As per usual, Reinsdorf's attempts to win through nickel and dime bargains could leave the Sox a day late and dollar short. 

    Gee, hope not ...Us sox fans aren't used to THAT!.... Rolling Eyes

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