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    Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by MGJOHNSON on Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:47 am

    From Rotoworld.com:

    "CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have checked in with the White Sox about the availability of left-hander John Danks. There's nothing to indicate that the two sides are close to a deal, but Yankees general manager Brian Cashman hasn't made any secret about his desire to add starting pitching. Danks owns a 4.35 ERA and 87/46 K/BB ratio over 124 innings this season, so he's not quite the pitcher he once was. There's still around $34 million remaining on his contract, which runs through 2016. He has a six-team no-trade list, but it's unclear if the Yankees are on it."
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    Post by Hawk Harrelson on Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:03 pm

    Yankees do not have much of a system. This would be a take his contract move.

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    Post by Guest on Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:03 pm

    Looks like the damn Yankees are loading up for 2016. 

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    Post by Guest on Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:04 pm

    Hawk Harrelson wrote:Yankees do not have much of a system. This would be a take his contract move.

    Got a couple good catchers in their system.  If they'd move one or not is another question, esp for Danks
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    Post by jaywit on Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:21 pm

    MGJOHNSON wrote:From Rotoworld.com:

    "CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have checked in with the White Sox about the availability of left-hander John Danks. There's nothing to indicate that the two sides are close to a deal, but Yankees general manager Brian Cashman hasn't made any secret about his desire to add starting pitching. Danks owns a 4.35 ERA and 87/46 K/BB ratio over 124 innings this season, so he's not quite the pitcher he once was. There's still around $34 million remaining on his contract, which runs through 2016. He has a six-team no-trade list, but it's unclear if the Yankees are on it."

    It must be nice to be paid that kind of money for doing something with such blah mediocrity.  But as if that's not enough, he also has stipulated there are 6 teams he doesn't want to go to.  Someone with such marginal talent who should be happy to be able to pitch for the Spokane Indians has listed 6 MLB teams which aren't good enough for him.

    Now, there's a good agent.

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    Post by MGJOHNSON on Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:49 pm

    jaywit wrote:
    MGJOHNSON wrote:From Rotoworld.com:

    "CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have checked in with the White Sox about the availability of left-hander John Danks. There's nothing to indicate that the two sides are close to a deal, but Yankees general manager Brian Cashman hasn't made any secret about his desire to add starting pitching. Danks owns a 4.35 ERA and 87/46 K/BB ratio over 124 innings this season, so he's not quite the pitcher he once was. There's still around $34 million remaining on his contract, which runs through 2016. He has a six-team no-trade list, but it's unclear if the Yankees are on it."

    It must be nice to be paid that kind of money for doing something with such blah mediocrity.  But as if that's not enough, he also has stipulated there are 6 teams he doesn't want to go to.  Someone with such marginal talent who should be happy to be able to pitch for the Spokane Indians has listed 6 MLB teams which aren't good enough for him.

    Now, there's a good agent.

    It may be fairly easy to get Danks to drop any no-trade clause by trading his brother along with him.
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by Cream1953 on Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:49 pm

     so he's not quite the pitcher he once was.

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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by Hawk Harrelson on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:11 pm

    This is not 1971.  The Yankees will be expected to eat the contract of Danks.  The Yankees can tell the Sox here is some A Ball player.  Take it or leave it.
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    Post by jaywit on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:13 pm

    MGJOHNSON wrote:
    jaywit wrote:
    MGJOHNSON wrote:From Rotoworld.com:

    "CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have checked in with the White Sox about the availability of left-hander John Danks. There's nothing to indicate that the two sides are close to a deal, but Yankees general manager Brian Cashman hasn't made any secret about his desire to add starting pitching. Danks owns a 4.35 ERA and 87/46 K/BB ratio over 124 innings this season, so he's not quite the pitcher he once was. There's still around $34 million remaining on his contract, which runs through 2016. He has a six-team no-trade list, but it's unclear if the Yankees are on it."

    It must be nice to be paid that kind of money for doing something with such blah mediocrity.  But as if that's not enough, he also has stipulated there are 6 teams he doesn't want to go to.  Someone with such marginal talent who should be happy to be able to pitch for the Spokane Indians has listed 6 MLB teams which aren't good enough for him.

    Now, there's a good agent.

    It may be fairly easy to get Danks to drop any no-trade clause by trading his brother along with him.

    Well that's one way of ridding us of the pain of seeing for another 3-4 weeks per season Jordan Danks batting well below the Dunn line.  However, John's trade value goes down with this addition.  Something tells me that Jordan is currently in the only professional organization that will have him and would be released by all others.
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by Hawk Harrelson on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:14 pm

    MGJOHNSON wrote:
    jaywit wrote:
    MGJOHNSON wrote:From Rotoworld.com:

    "CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have checked in with the White Sox about the availability of left-hander John Danks. There's nothing to indicate that the two sides are close to a deal, but Yankees general manager Brian Cashman hasn't made any secret about his desire to add starting pitching. Danks owns a 4.35 ERA and 87/46 K/BB ratio over 124 innings this season, so he's not quite the pitcher he once was. There's still around $34 million remaining on his contract, which runs through 2016. He has a six-team no-trade list, but it's unclear if the Yankees are on it."

    It must be nice to be paid that kind of money for doing something with such blah mediocrity.  But as if that's not enough, he also has stipulated there are 6 teams he doesn't want to go to.  Someone with such marginal talent who should be happy to be able to pitch for the Spokane Indians has listed 6 MLB teams which aren't good enough for him.

    Now, there's a good agent.

    It may be fairly easy to get Danks to drop any no-trade clause by trading his brother along with him.
    Will their Mom bring snacks to Yankee Stadium?
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by jaywit on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:16 pm

    Hawk Harrelson wrote:
    MGJOHNSON wrote:
    jaywit wrote:
    MGJOHNSON wrote:From Rotoworld.com:

    "CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have checked in with the White Sox about the availability of left-hander John Danks. There's nothing to indicate that the two sides are close to a deal, but Yankees general manager Brian Cashman hasn't made any secret about his desire to add starting pitching. Danks owns a 4.35 ERA and 87/46 K/BB ratio over 124 innings this season, so he's not quite the pitcher he once was. There's still around $34 million remaining on his contract, which runs through 2016. He has a six-team no-trade list, but it's unclear if the Yankees are on it."

    It must be nice to be paid that kind of money for doing something with such blah mediocrity.  But as if that's not enough, he also has stipulated there are 6 teams he doesn't want to go to.  Someone with such marginal talent who should be happy to be able to pitch for the Spokane Indians has listed 6 MLB teams which aren't good enough for him.

    Now, there's a good agent.

    It may be fairly easy to get Danks to drop any no-trade clause by trading his brother along with him.
    Will their Mom bring snacks to Yankee Stadium?

    It could make for a good Campbells ad if anyone outside of Bridgeport new who the fuck either of them were.
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by Hawk Harrelson on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:16 pm

    Maybe the Sox could have traded for Hank Aaron if they would have just taken his brother Tommie in the deal?
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by Hawk Harrelson on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:20 pm

    Trade Danks and OAF to the Yankees.  Unload the $$$$$$.


    Free up $$$$$ for the offseason.

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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by MGJOHNSON on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:44 pm

    jaywit wrote:
    Hawk Harrelson wrote:
    MGJOHNSON wrote:
    jaywit wrote:
    MGJOHNSON wrote:From Rotoworld.com:

    "CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees have checked in with the White Sox about the availability of left-hander John Danks. There's nothing to indicate that the two sides are close to a deal, but Yankees general manager Brian Cashman hasn't made any secret about his desire to add starting pitching. Danks owns a 4.35 ERA and 87/46 K/BB ratio over 124 innings this season, so he's not quite the pitcher he once was. There's still around $34 million remaining on his contract, which runs through 2016. He has a six-team no-trade list, but it's unclear if the Yankees are on it."

    It must be nice to be paid that kind of money for doing something with such blah mediocrity.  But as if that's not enough, he also has stipulated there are 6 teams he doesn't want to go to.  Someone with such marginal talent who should be happy to be able to pitch for the Spokane Indians has listed 6 MLB teams which aren't good enough for him.

    Now, there's a good agent.

    It may be fairly easy to get Danks to drop any no-trade clause by trading his brother along with him.
    Will their Mom bring snacks to Yankee Stadium?

    It could make for a good Campbells ad if anyone outside of Bridgeport new who the fuck either of them were.

    If anyone knew who these guys were, Campbell wouldn't want 'em.

    Beggin' Strips might be interested...

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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by MGJOHNSON on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:49 pm

    Hawk Harrelson wrote:Trade Danks and OAF to the Yankees.  Unload the $$$$$$.


    Free up $$$$$ for the offseason.

    Money is needed to sign raft people...
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by Cream1953 on Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:00 pm

    Any possibility by the Yankees of taking on Dank's contract should be pounced on by the White Sox. I don't care if the only other thing they get for him is a couple of used catcher's cups...make the deal!  Danks' contract is an achor around the neck of the cheap-ass White Sox organization. As for the Yankees, his contract is chump change. It's no big deal if he doesn't pan out for them.

    Dump the stiff!!
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by alohafri on Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:44 pm

    Cream1953 wrote:Any possibility by the Yankees of taking on Dank's contract should be pounced on by the White Sox. I don't care if the only other thing they get for him is a couple of used catcher's cups...make the deal!  Danks' contract is an achor around the neck of the cheap-ass White Sox organization. As for the Yankees, his contract is chump change. It's no big deal if he doesn't pan out for them.

    Dump the stiff!!

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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by rmapasad on Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:14 pm

    Hawk Harrelson wrote:Trade Danks and OAF to the Yankees.  Unload the $$$$$$.
    Free up $$$$$ for the offseason.

    Really ?   We are talking Reinsdorf here aren't we ? Suddenly he is going to join into the free agency market with the big boys ?  When has that happened in his 25+ years ?

    Free agents are ridiculously expensive and clubs either have the stomach for that or not.  LA, Detroit, NY, Boston will take those risks.  Goes with the territory of CONSISTENT contending on the big stage.   Marlins and Astros are models of cost-efficiency" - they don't overpay.

    It's OK if Sox become the Astros for the next 3-5 years. That may be the most realistic way to go.  That's what Baltimore did - shitty for a long time until their farm system could start to deliver.    But that doesn't always work either (Kansas City).

    OTOH, teams without good farm systems like Detroit spend to make up for it.   Of the teams who'd make the playoffs today, the average payroll
    is  $ 135 million payroll.   Several aren't spending quite that - Baltimore is at $ 105, A's at merely $ 77 million.   But they have farm systems and the Sox don't.   So I think the answer is pretty clear - the Sox have a spending gap..

    Of course, Reinsdorf would love for his Battered Sox Fans to believe the myth that if he could only shed the "overpaid" players and find ways to spend his same $80-90 million payroll smarter, that this will lead to the promised land.  That's the way of a chiseler who wants low rent, low payroll, and bullshit hopes.
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by Hawk Harrelson on Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:30 pm

    I have zero hope for the Sox.  None.  As long as this guy runs the show, this is a ripoff.

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    Post by Guest on Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:06 pm

    Chi-kid wrote:Looks like the damn Yankees are loading up for 2016. 


    THIS IS NOT FUNNY!!!

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    OTOH, teams without good farm systems like Detroit spend to make up for it.   Of the teams who'd make the playoffs today, the average payroll
    is  $ 135 million payroll.   Several aren't spending quite that - Baltimore is at $ 105, A's at merely $ 77 million.   But they have farm systems and the Sox don't.   So I think the answer is pretty clear - the Sox have a spending gap..


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    Post by Guest on Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:20 pm

    Of course, Reinsdorf would love for his Battered Sox Fans to believe the myth that if he could only shed the "overpaid" players and find ways to spend his same $80-90 million payroll smarter, that this will lead to the promised land.  That's the way of a chiseler who wants low rent, low payroll, and bullshit hopes.


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    ONCE AGAIN, TATTOO COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTS THE LOGIC BEHIND DUMPING DANKS AND DUNN AND ANY OF THE OTHER HIGH PRICED STIFFS,


    BOARD MEMBERS THAT DON'T FEEL COMPELLED TO OVER EXPLAIN THE BLATANTLY OBVIOUS DON'T WANT DANKS GONE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN SOME MAGICALLY ADDITION BY SUBTRACTION


    WE WANT DANKS AND DUNN AND COMPANY GONE BECAUSE THEY SUCK.


    NOT ONLY THAT, WE ARE FULLY AWARE THAT THE IMMEDIATE REPLACEMENT MIGHT SUCK EVEN MORE.


    HOWEVER, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SUCKING A LITTLE OR SUCKING A LOT STILL MEANS YOU SUCK.  SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO SUCK, SUCK WITH SOME KID THAT MIGHT SURPRISE INSTEAD OF SUCKING WITH A PROVEN SUCKER WHO WILL CONTINUE TO SUCK,


    AND IF YOU CAN'T IF YOU UNDERSTAND COMPREHENDE THAT, THE KARK HAS 2 WORDS FOR YA

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    Post by Guest on Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:21 pm

    Hawk Harrelson wrote:I have zero hope for the Sox.  None.  As long as this guy runs the show, this is a ripoff.


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    THEY HAVE AS MUCH CHANCE AS I DO OF WINNING THE POWERBALL THIS WEEKEND
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by Hawk Harrelson on Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:01 pm

    Winning is important to Reinsdorf!!!


    ROTFLMFAO!!!
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    Re: Yankees interested in Danks

    Post by rmapasad on Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:49 pm

    ONCE AGAIN, TATTOO COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTS THE LOGIC BEHIND DUMPING DANKS AND DUNN AND ANY OF THE OTHER HIGH PRICED STIFFS,
    BOARD MEMBERS THAT DON'T FEEL COMPELLED TO OVER EXPLAIN THE BLATANTLY OBVIOUS DON'T WANT DANKS GONE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN SOME MAGICALLY ADDITION BY SUBTRACTION
    WE WANT DANKS AND DUNN AND COMPANY GONE BECAUSE THEY SUCK.
    NOT ONLY THAT, WE ARE FULLY AWARE THAT THE IMMEDIATE REPLACEMENT MIGHT SUCK EVEN MORE.
    HOWEVER, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SUCKING A LITTLE OR SUCKING A LOT STILL MEANS YOU SUCK.  SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO SUCK, SUCK WITH SOME KID THAT MIGHT SURPRISE INSTEAD OF SUCKING WITH A PROVEN SUCKER WHO WILL CONTINUE TO SUCK,
    AND IF YOU CAN'T IF YOU UNDERSTAND COMPREHENDE THAT, THE KARK HAS 2 WORDS FOR YA
     
    Calling Danks an "overpaid mediocrity" was at least reasonable.   This last post is just bullshit.  Danks was one of the top 50 pitchers in majors between 2008-2011 - that's indisputable. It's the reason he got the contract from Kenny.  Problem is Kenny paid him like he was one of the top 20 or 25.  After Danks got hurt,  he's only in top 50 - 100 now. 

    Still, he deserves credit for rebounding and battling.  His very  good Quality  Start % (70%), is same as Buehrle's   Granted, when he's off, Danks gets the shit kicked out of him. But he's not been off that much - only 4 times in 20 starts.  Not sucking in 16 of 20 starts means he doesn't suck.  Otherwise, no team in their right mind would be scouting him for a trade right now.

    Danks might actually have some upside if he can convert into a Mark Buehrle finesse type. He's had some real flashes of that in the last 2 months.  But his last start v. Houston was also a red flag. He ain't there yet, and he may never get there.  Which is the frustration about this guy - he begins to show something, then falls back again.

    Sox may decide they want to dump his salary, which is fine.  If they aren't going anywhere for next 2-3 years, might as well do so as cheaply as possible.  But to say that there is no difference between Danks and a bunch of incompetents is plain ridiculous. Danks has at least shown he can pitch at the major league level respectably for decent stretches, even after surgery.  He gives some reason for hope, even though he also has red flags. 

    The Rienzos, Johnsons, and Axelrods are nothing but red flags. They couldn't hack it in the majors, and now they can't even handle AAA anymore.  And none of them have been blocked from the Sox rotation this year - the # 4 and # 5 spots have been wide open and it's been a revolving door of stiffs in and out.  All Danks' departure will do is increase the opportunities for more stiffs to shuffle in and out.  But it will save money and if he can bring a semi-decent prospect in return, that would be enough rationale to move him.

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