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    Re: Tanaka a Yankee

    Post by MGJOHNSON on Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:07 pm

    winstonage wrote:
    Cream1953 wrote: If this was basically some sort of public relations gesture for fans, then it was pretty transparent and lame

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    Yes....it was.

    I really think they were serious, otherwise just call his agent. Williams, Hahn and Ventura flew to LA to meet with him. This isn't win now anymore. Hahn's moves are what the fan base is liking not any public relations move.

    There may have been another reason why KW wanted to be "busy" in LA that day.  From ESPN on Jan. 9th: "Williams, now the team's executive vice president, Hahn and manager Robin Ventura met with the pitcher, which explains the absence of all three from Frank Thomas' Hall of Fame news conference Wednesday."
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    Re: Tanaka a Yankee

    Post by jaywit on Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:12 pm

    MGJOHNSON wrote:
    winstonage wrote:
    Cream1953 wrote: If this was basically some sort of public relations gesture for fans, then it was pretty transparent and lame

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    Yes....it was.

    I really think they were serious, otherwise just call his agent. Williams, Hahn and Ventura flew to LA to meet with him. This isn't win now anymore. Hahn's moves are what the fan base is liking not any public relations move.

    There may have been another reason why KW wanted to be "busy" in LA that day.  From ESPN on Jan. 9th: "Williams, now the team's executive vice president, Hahn and manager Robin Ventura met with the pitcher, which explains the absence of all three from Frank Thomas' Hall of Fame news conference Wednesday."

    I wondered about that too, Mart.  Wouldn't put it past him.
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    Re: Tanaka a Yankee

    Post by rmapasad on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:53 pm

    Even if Tanaka were to win 20 games a year for the next 7 years, the length of his contract, that would be over $1.1 million per win.  That's a heck of a lot of money, especially when one considers how easily the White Sox give games away.  Sheesh, if a win is worth well over a million bucks, one would hope that the Sox would play a lot harder to get one!  Of course, Tanaka hasn't won any MLB games yet.>>
    Mart, $ 1 million per win is cheap by major league standards.  Here's the way to figure it.  The Houston Astros last year had the lowest payroll in baseball at $ 22 million.  That's less than $ 1 mil per player and about the lowest payroll any team could possibly get away with.  They also won only 51 games, the lowest of any team in baseball in last 10 years.  In sum, they are very close to the hypothetical "replacement level team" with a replacement level payroll.   The "average " major league team payroll was $ 103 million and the "average" team won 81 games.   So those "extra" 30 wins for an "avg team" v. a replacement level team cost $ 81 million or $ 2.7 million per win. 

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    Re: Tanaka a Yankee

    Post by MGJOHNSON on Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:10 am

    rmapasad wrote:Even if Tanaka were to win 20 games a year for the next 7 years, the length of his contract, that would be over $1.1 million per win.  That's a heck of a lot of money, especially when one considers how easily the White Sox give games away.  Sheesh, if a win is worth well over a million bucks, one would hope that the Sox would play a lot harder to get one!  Of course, Tanaka hasn't won any MLB games yet.>>
    Mart, $ 1 million per win is cheap by major league standards.  Here's the way to figure it.  The Houston Astros last year had the lowest payroll in baseball at $ 22 million.  That's less than $ 1 mil per player and about the lowest payroll any team could possibly get away with.  They also won only 51 games, the lowest of any team in baseball in last 10 years.  In sum, they are very close to the hypothetical "replacement level team" with a replacement level payroll.   The "average " major league team payroll was $ 103 million and the "average" team won 81 games.   So those "extra" 30 wins for an "avg team" v. a replacement level team cost $ 81 million or $ 2.7 million per win. 

    If salaries are being inflated to such an extend, maybe the Sox can find a team to pick up a good chunk of the $15 million owed on Dunn's contract.  Well, I can at least dream... 
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    Re: Tanaka a Yankee

    Post by rmapasad on Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:18 am

     salaries are being inflated to such an extend, maybe the Sox can find a team to pick up a good chunk of the $15 million owed on Dunn's contract.  Well, I can at least dream... >
     Very Happy One slight problem.   Dunn played like a typical Houston Astro, and he should have paid like one too

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